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		<title>Comment on The Gentoo Pandora Project becomes Neuvoo by gruso</title>
		<link>http://openpandora.wordpress.com/2009/09/07/the-gentoo-pandora-project-becomes-neuvoo/#comment-7442</link>
		<dc:creator>gruso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 06:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kefinan: The 10th wasn&#039;t an official deadline, it was an unofficial estimate. The mould isn&#039;t quite done yet. I&#039;ve added some notes to the roadmap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kefinan: The 10th wasn&#8217;t an official deadline, it was an unofficial estimate. The mould isn&#8217;t quite done yet. I&#8217;ve added some notes to the roadmap.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Gentoo Pandora Project becomes Neuvoo by PoisonedV</title>
		<link>http://openpandora.wordpress.com/2009/09/07/the-gentoo-pandora-project-becomes-neuvoo/#comment-7441</link>
		<dc:creator>PoisonedV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 05:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Kefinan, so young, so naive</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Gentoo Pandora Project becomes Neuvoo by Kefinan</title>
		<link>http://openpandora.wordpress.com/2009/09/07/the-gentoo-pandora-project-becomes-neuvoo/#comment-7440</link>
		<dc:creator>Kefinan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 05:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, it&#039;s September 10. Where are our news from the mould factory?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, it&#8217;s September 10. Where are our news from the mould factory?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Gentoo Pandora Project becomes Neuvoo by viridior</title>
		<link>http://openpandora.wordpress.com/2009/09/07/the-gentoo-pandora-project-becomes-neuvoo/#comment-7439</link>
		<dc:creator>viridior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Focha: The SDK is effectively OpenEmbedded, http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Main_Page  If you want a working SDK then you can use Angstrom if you have a ARM system.  If not then there are guides on getting OE working on a x86 host OS.  I do understand the difficulty in building something without the hardware, but its possible to get things going and tweak once it shows up.  I understand completely about the lack of information, building our OS hasn&#039;t been easy without guidance but we have done a lot over time.

I do completely understand about the lack of news, I share the same view-point.  I&#039;ve been fortunately enough to have the money to get a Beagleboard and now a Touch Book to do hardware testing, but without those I would be hard-pressed to maintain any amount of enthusiasm as well.

Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Focha: The SDK is effectively OpenEmbedded, <a href="http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Main_Page" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Main_Page</a>  If you want a working SDK then you can use Angstrom if you have a ARM system.  If not then there are guides on getting OE working on a x86 host OS.  I do understand the difficulty in building something without the hardware, but its possible to get things going and tweak once it shows up.  I understand completely about the lack of information, building our OS hasn&#8217;t been easy without guidance but we have done a lot over time.</p>
<p>I do completely understand about the lack of news, I share the same view-point.  I&#8217;ve been fortunately enough to have the money to get a Beagleboard and now a Touch Book to do hardware testing, but without those I would be hard-pressed to maintain any amount of enthusiasm as well.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Gentoo Pandora Project becomes Neuvoo by viridior</title>
		<link>http://openpandora.wordpress.com/2009/09/07/the-gentoo-pandora-project-becomes-neuvoo/#comment-7438</link>
		<dc:creator>viridior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul: I&#039;m happy about your enthusiasm.  I have quite a few things that I need to compile first, but I would be more than happy to attempt KDE when I can get to it.  It would be great if you can test it and see how it works when we get to that point.  Gentoo can be found there http://gentoo.org  I would recommend using something like virtualbox at first when you go through the Gentoo Handbook.  No reason to erase your working system as your learn/break things ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul: I&#8217;m happy about your enthusiasm.  I have quite a few things that I need to compile first, but I would be more than happy to attempt KDE when I can get to it.  It would be great if you can test it and see how it works when we get to that point.  Gentoo can be found there <a href="http://gentoo.org" rel="nofollow">http://gentoo.org</a>  I would recommend using something like virtualbox at first when you go through the Gentoo Handbook.  No reason to erase your working system as your learn/break things <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on The Gentoo Pandora Project becomes Neuvoo by Focha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Focha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Viridior
I would gladly contribute on something but we didn&#039;t even have SDK or something useful like an emulator !
And if you insist on the fact that Pandora is SDL compliant then I would say it&#039;s like programming stuff for the Nintendo DS without any clues on the hardware features or compatibilities.

There is no complain about the necessary and essential work of Gruso for keeping us informed about what&#039;s going on here (thank you by the way, I would already refund if not). But I just feel upset for every people like me who do not receive any clear overview of the official situation. They do find time to answer common subjects on the forum but nothing since month on the official blog.

There are people with patiences and other without. Hope you understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Viridior<br />
I would gladly contribute on something but we didn&#8217;t even have SDK or something useful like an emulator !<br />
And if you insist on the fact that Pandora is SDL compliant then I would say it&#8217;s like programming stuff for the Nintendo DS without any clues on the hardware features or compatibilities.</p>
<p>There is no complain about the necessary and essential work of Gruso for keeping us informed about what&#8217;s going on here (thank you by the way, I would already refund if not). But I just feel upset for every people like me who do not receive any clear overview of the official situation. They do find time to answer common subjects on the forum but nothing since month on the official blog.</p>
<p>There are people with patiences and other without. Hope you understand.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Gentoo Pandora Project becomes Neuvoo by Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@viridior - sorry for my late reply, my internet connection has been messing up A LOT lately...

you said: I’ll ask around our group if anyone planned on KDE and see where it goes from there. If you or someone you know is interested in joining us to work on KDE then you/they are most welcome.

my reply: Well, I unfortunately don&#039;t know anyone who has even heard of Linux... =( &amp; I sadly don&#039;t have any coding skills... =( However, I would be willing to help in any other way that I can to help bring a functional KDE-based desktop environment to OpenPandora (I suppose it&#039;s just the flavor of Linux I&#039;m most familiar with). As far as e17 goes, I guess I just haven&#039;t had any experience with Enlightenment-based desktop environments. I am not opposed to learning more about and exploring e17 and Gentoo in general. Who knows, I might like them even better than KDE+PCLinuxOS MiniMe ver.. If there is a liveusb(or, I guess, a livecd) out there that could let me delve into what e17 &amp; Gentoo have to offer, I would really like to learn more about them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@viridior &#8211; sorry for my late reply, my internet connection has been messing up A LOT lately&#8230;</p>
<p>you said: I’ll ask around our group if anyone planned on KDE and see where it goes from there. If you or someone you know is interested in joining us to work on KDE then you/they are most welcome.</p>
<p>my reply: Well, I unfortunately don&#8217;t know anyone who has even heard of Linux&#8230; =( &amp; I sadly don&#8217;t have any coding skills&#8230; =( However, I would be willing to help in any other way that I can to help bring a functional KDE-based desktop environment to OpenPandora (I suppose it&#8217;s just the flavor of Linux I&#8217;m most familiar with). As far as e17 goes, I guess I just haven&#8217;t had any experience with Enlightenment-based desktop environments. I am not opposed to learning more about and exploring e17 and Gentoo in general. Who knows, I might like them even better than KDE+PCLinuxOS MiniMe ver.. If there is a liveusb(or, I guess, a livecd) out there that could let me delve into what e17 &amp; Gentoo have to offer, I would really like to learn more about them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Free steak knives, Eiffel Tower by Tensuke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tensuke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:D</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Gentoo Pandora Project becomes Neuvoo by Viridior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Viridior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Fennu: I hope that &quot;its not a distro for the new/weak&quot; is something we can get away from with Neuvoo images.  Its Gentoo underneath, but we will be providing configs for all of the major subsystems.  So hopefully &quot;it will just work&quot; like other distros you might be familiar with.  We expect a huge improvement in speed since we are using ARMv7a Cortex-a8 NEON CFLAGS instead of the more common ARMv4/ARMv5 binary repos (are latest images might include gcc-4.4.1 and glibc-2.10, supposedly a good improvement for ARMv7a and specifically NEON instructions).  As far as the KDE question.. its a legitimate one since a lot of distros are initially restricted to one WM or another.  Gentoo can use them all, but if your not familiar with it I expect questions to be made as he did.  I&#039;ll be more then happy to answer those that I can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fennu: I hope that &#8220;its not a distro for the new/weak&#8221; is something we can get away from with Neuvoo images.  Its Gentoo underneath, but we will be providing configs for all of the major subsystems.  So hopefully &#8220;it will just work&#8221; like other distros you might be familiar with.  We expect a huge improvement in speed since we are using ARMv7a Cortex-a8 NEON CFLAGS instead of the more common ARMv4/ARMv5 binary repos (are latest images might include gcc-4.4.1 and glibc-2.10, supposedly a good improvement for ARMv7a and specifically NEON instructions).  As far as the KDE question.. its a legitimate one since a lot of distros are initially restricted to one WM or another.  Gentoo can use them all, but if your not familiar with it I expect questions to be made as he did.  I&#8217;ll be more then happy to answer those that I can.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Gentoo Pandora Project becomes Neuvoo by Viridior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Viridior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ben dash: Thanks, I hope to see your comments and impressions of what we are doing.  I did get a Touch Book yesterday and I&#039;ll be throwing our image on it soon.

@Focha: Thanks for the constructive comments.  Gruso and all or doing their best to inform the community on what is going on.  If you want to limit yourself to official updates I&#039;m sure it will be extremely short.  Outside of the official OS, most of the work being done are by non-devs trying to push the hardware and options for this device.  Feel free at any time to contribute something yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ben dash: Thanks, I hope to see your comments and impressions of what we are doing.  I did get a Touch Book yesterday and I&#8217;ll be throwing our image on it soon.</p>
<p>@Focha: Thanks for the constructive comments.  Gruso and all or doing their best to inform the community on what is going on.  If you want to limit yourself to official updates I&#8217;m sure it will be extremely short.  Outside of the official OS, most of the work being done are by non-devs trying to push the hardware and options for this device.  Feel free at any time to contribute something yourself.</p>
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